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Seliger camp is an event for every summer
« on: July 22, 2009, 09:24:26 AM »
[center]Seliger camp’s growing pains[/center]

by Roland Oliphant

This year the annual youth camp at Lake Seliger was organized by the state, and thrown open to non-Nashi participants. It did not live up to the lurid expectations of its critics, and at its best was everything it was meant to be - a learning experience, a forum for new ideas and networking and, yes, an educational opportunity for Russia's brightest young things. But its purpose is still confusing, and the highly-choreographed events are underpinned by an uneasy sense of hierarchy better suited to the school classroom than to a forum for innovative young people.

The Seliger camp has dubious connotations for many: people think of Nashi's harassment of diplomats, political brain-washing and sexual excess. Bringing the event under government control and opening it for non-Nashi campers has not assuaged critics, either: one oppositionist called the camp "practically indistinguishable from similar youth camps [previously] held by Nashi," according to a letter in Kommersant.

Traditional elements from previous camps did, indeed, remain. But there was no paramilitary training against colored revolutions, nor any "love oasis" in which couples could raise the birthrate. And the rhetoric was more patriotic than partisan. But for all the camp's efforts at neutrality and civility, its point remained unclear.

Titled "Innovation Forum 2009," the event was dominated by the themes of innovation and "tolerance" (within another program called "Russia for Everybody"). To confuse matters further, the invariable one-word description of the camp's focus was "education".

This was best exemplified by the living-art project Future Ville, where factories, a grocery store, even a registry office were built of wood by various teams. They also printed money, built a bureaucracy, passed laws and held elections. Opposition newspapers appeared accusing the "mayor" of failing to fight inflation, corruption and authoritarianism. "It's a game," said one participant, but also "a great way to give people experience of civic life."

And at its best, that was what Seliger was all about. Most of the delegates were entrepreneurs seeking to present business plans and find investors. One delegation sought funding for a multi-ethnic theatre company. Others had more technical projects, such as Russia's first crayfish farm. And there was "TV", the campsite television station run by students and trainees; a site newspaper; and outward bound activities from abseiling to kayaking.

Bud Seliger 2009 also had an obvious ulterior motive - as an anti-brain drain forum. In a mock graveyard, black crosses bore the names of modern inventions and the dates their Russian inventors emigrated abroad. The best and brightest from Russia's elite universities were meant to understand that there would be opportunities for them here, and that it would be disastrous for Russia if they left.

There is nothing malignant about that. The worry for critics of Seliger is that the older political generation uses it to transmit their own ideology to the new - or at least stop the younger generation from questioning their assumptions.

And that makes some things about Seliger a little unsettling. The most bizarre moment, in any case, came the evening before Medvedev's video link, when former Nashi leader Vasily Yakemenko bawled out the crowd for giving Education Minister Andrei Fursenko an unenthusiastic reception earlier that day. The several-thousand-strong crowd of young adults - the innovative future of Russia unburdened by old assumptions - was cowed into silence before Yakemenko like school children before a disappointed headmaster.


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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2010, 05:41:16 PM »
Photos and news from the International Youth Forum Seliger-2010:

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Fight of Russian Youth Social organisations - "Nashi" and "Molodaya Gvardiya"

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Seliger camp is an event for every summer
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 05:28:52 PM »
Hello Liker888,
thank you for the information. It is good that our youth is talking for their rights.
Please, tell us if you know some positive comments about the end of it.


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Nashi Youth commandments copy Goebbles Nazi
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 08:59:41 PM »
What is a bit spooky is how little discipline or direction the Nashi youth is given. The Kremlin Party claims to be separate from the Nashi, but their activities reflect on the party in power. 
And given their youthful enthusiasm they are out to make their point, and who do they seek for inspiration?
In this case, they take doctrine straight from the Nazi playbook and it is a potentially destructive direction.

Sean's Russia Blog reports it this way:

"According to, Ruslan Maslov, a Stal  (Steel) activist in Yaroslavl, decided to draw up “The Movement’s Commandments of Honor.”  Perhaps he felt his fellow Stalists needed some point by point direction.  The commandments’ eight points are as follows:

  1. Your fatherland is Russia.  Love it above all others and in deed more than word.
  2. The enemies of Russia are your enemies.
  3. Every compatriot, even the lowliest, is a part of Russia.  Love him like you love yourself!
  4. Demand only duties of yourself.  Then Russia will regain justice!
  5. Be proud of Russia!  You must honor the fatherland for which millions have given their lives.
  6. Remember, if someone takes away your rights, you have the right to say “NO!”
  7. Uphold what you must without shame when Great Russia is concerned!
  8. Believe in the future.  Then you can become the victor!

Your usual nationalist claptrap for the youth.  The only problem is that it’s a little to close to Joesph Goebbels “Ten Commandments of a National Socialist.”  The Reich Minister’s youth primer reads:

  1. Germany is your Fatherland; love it above all, and more in deeds than in words.
  2. Germany’s enemies are your enemies; hate them with all your heart.
  3. Every compatriot, even the lowliest, is part of Germany; love him as you love yourself.
  4. Demand only duties for yourself then Germany will also regain rights and privileges.
  5. Be proud of Germany; you have a right to take pride in a Fatherland for which millions have their lives.
  6. He who abuses Germany abuses you and your deceased; repay him with your fists!
  7. Repay like with like and then some.  If you are denied your just rights, remember: you can secure them again only through your own political movement.
  8. Do not be a hooligan anti-Semite–but beware of the Berliner Tageblatt!
  9. Live your life in such a way that one day you will not need to stand ashamed before a new Germany.
  10. Have faith in the future; only thus will you win it.

The similarities are disturbing to say the least.  Message to Nashi.  Plagiarism is bad.  Plagiarizing Joesph Goebbles is unacceptable.  Especially when the nation of you claim to love lost 26 million people fighting the country Goebbles served as Reich Minister of Propaganda."

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